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I'm dumping in some random notes here:
Question from offline:
- Saw this:
- {{Backlinks|[[Steve Lortz]], [[Sam Greenwell]]}}
- In association with this:
- {{smgl|Steve Lortz}}
- and understand the "sm" for "small" but what's the "gl"? How does this differ than just a link to the page in the Sculptors category?
Response:
- {{smgl}} is small-grey-link. I've been using this for the sculptor links in the image gallery captions. In addition to being small and grey, it doesn't show the underline until you move the cursor over the text. I was trying to make the links in the image captions subtle. That (and smg, clink, etc. are not built-in to mediawiki, those are things I added to the LMW.
- The backlinks thing is working around a bug in mediawiki (our version of mediawiki is old, so this may not apply to sites running up to date versions). The bug is that links within image galleries are not tracked by the system for the purpose of backlinks.
- Say some page A has links to page B from within its image gallery captions (and the only links to B on that page are from the image captions), then if you go to page B and hit 'what-links-here' then page A won't be in the list. The backlinks macro works by just inserting the parameter text (which is just a list of links in these cases) into the page in such a way that it isn't visible. In other words is puts some links on the page that are not visible, but the presence of those links cause the system to track the backlink association between the two pages like you would expect.
- The smgl macro just effects the display of the link, backlinks would still be required even if a normal link was used in the image captions. So the two are unrelated in that sense.
- Okay, outside of Sculptors links within a gallery, I'm also putting up cross-references to other copyright owning manufacturers (such as Mega's Metal Magic). I should put in a backlink, but where should it go? Does this bug affect tables too? I presume it won't work within a gallery (or possibly a table), so I guess it goes at the page bottom, outside all enclosing bounders save the Category page bottom link. Is it completely invisible or do I have to set the font colour to be transparent against the background (ie. white)? PS. I like the idea of putting the sculptors in small gray text links, so I'll try to do that on the pages I work on. I have noticed that some editors like to reserve that for specific figure codes (like the MM? Monster Manual designations. Can we come up with a consistent style for these two kinds of referents? Say, gray for fig codes and perhaps, say, a small powder blue? for sculptors? Is there a macro for a powder blue or can we make one? (smbl perhaps?) Could be any color Colin wants of course, but it should be a little on the pale side. I wouldn't want the colors chosen to interfere with the regular link colors. --Mysticat 05:09, 22 September 2010 (MST)
- The Backlinks thing can go anywhere on the page (or, to be precise, anywhere on the page outside of an image gallery). I've just stuck them at the bottom just before the category annotations. They are completely invisible, you don't need to do anything in that regard. The bug does not effect tables, the only time you need to worry about hand authoring backlinks is when the only links to a given target page are from within image captions on the source page. If you already have a link to the destination page elsewhere on the primary page in question, you don't have to worry about doing anything manually. i.e. your Mega Miniatures link on the Metal Magic page don't need any special attention because the introduction text at the top of the page already has a link to the target page. If in doubt, just double check. Go to the target page, click on what-links-here, and see if the source page is present like you would expect. In most cases, this backlinks thing isn't something that you will need to worry about.
- Regarding the colors for annotations like the Grenadier per-figure codes and the sculptor names I think it is fine that they are both the same style, they don't overlap much (in the case of Grenadier, there are not many places where individual figures are annoated with the sculptor names since in most cases it was specified for the whole set) and both are the same sort of secondary information about the figure. I added the smgl thing when the sculptor pages started because before we just had the small grey text listing the names, and after switching them to links I thought that the links in the image captions stood out too much (i.e. smgl makes things that were small-grey-text still look the same as before even though they have been converted to links). Thegrouch 02:32, 23 September 2010 (MST)
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Stephengroy 12:05, 22 September 2010 (MST)
