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Requests

Creating this section to put requests for actions that require administration privilege. It's easier/better than emailing [btw: the 'email this user' link has no email set-up for 'Admin'] and it's more likely that the Admin will see a request if placed here rather than burying it on a Talk page. I dunno, just trying this out, really... good/bad idea? Maybe create these on their own page rather than hijacking the Admin user page? I moved the discussion about Google bots in here... since that got buried amongst the Mega Minis/Hobby Products edits I've been doing...

Cattwister's Requests

Discussions

Google Not Indexing Images

On a related side-note, I've noticed that Google doesn't index the images on the Wiki very well (almost at all) due, I think, to our file naming conventions and a lack of captions? A Google image search like "site:miniatures-workshop.com wizard" only pulls back 4 hits, "site:miniatures-workshop.com MetalMagic" pulls back 1, site:miniatures-workshop.com RalPartha" 5 hits. Whereas this: "site:solegends.com Minotaur" pulls back a ton of hits - the solegends filenames have either "Minotaur" in them or the image is close to "Minotaur" as text on the web page that Google has indexed. Likewise with "site:collecting-citadel-miniatures.com Minotaur" we get lots of hits. But the Lost Minis Wiki gets 1 hit with "site:miniatures-workshop.com Minotaur" - and it's not a Minotaur! It could also be that Google doesn't index wikis? Or that the wiki forbids image indexing (robots.txt, I think)? Obviously, what I would like to do is a Google image search like "site:miniatures-workshop.com MetalMagic" and simply scroll through all pictures on the Lost Minis Wiki that are "MetalMagic" related until I find something that matches the unknown mini in front of me.--Cattwister 11:16, 9 June 2014 (BST)
That is a good point, I never noticed that. I don't think that it is due to the filenames and/or captions, do a google image search for just "site:miniatures-workshop.com" and you only get a couple dozen results (mostly outside the wiki itself). From that I infer that they are not indexing the images on the wiki at all. Filenames and captions would be more an issue of how accurate the indexing is, at least I would think. Other wikis seem to work fine with google image search, so I don't think it is anything about wikis per-se either. So, I'm assuming it is something about how this site is configured, but I have no idea how/why that would be. --Thegrouch 02:26, 10 June 2014 (BST)
Well, I looked at the robots.txt for the site and the only thing excluded is the msnbot user-agent (which probably explain why Bing search doesn't work for the site even for regular non-image searches). ... I've got no idea why Google doesn't see any of the wiki images. --Thegrouch 08:17, 10 June 2014 (BST)

Some time last year this site was brought down by the Google bot, it was indexing the site many times a day, requesting hundreds of pages at once. I tried many ways to restrict the bots activity to something that wouldn't crash the site, but it wouldn't play fair, I even contacted Google to ask them to tame their bot, but unsurprisingly they were too busy to notice me. In the end I was forced to prevented Google from continuing to index the site. I can't remember how I did it now, I'd have to check through some setting to remember. --Admin 22:45, 13 June 2014 (BST)

OK, I've just checked through and found the robots exclusion code in the .htaccess file. Since the problems noted above, we had a hosting upgrade, which allows far more bandwidth usage than we had, so I've commented out the exclusion code. Theoretically search engine robots shouldn't be able crash the site now, but we'll see. Finger crossed. --Admin 12:49, 14 June 2014 (BST)

Meta-Gallery Pages

Re: Tall Elves, and several other Meta-gallery pages like this... These are not helpful from an editor's point of view (IMO). Maintaining them properly is never going to happen as they add to the burden of uploading new images - "What Meta-galleries do I also have to hook this image in to?" They are a nice idea but pages like this need to be automatically generated (scraped from the site somehow?). I put in a request about *deleting* duplicate images and some of those duplicates are now found *only* on these meta-gallery pages. Since these pages have a disclaimer that they will not be kept up-to-date, I have not updated them - but it will still seem that these pictures are in use because of these pages. I suggest the meta-gallery pages be deleted. Excessive? Or are we okay with just leaving stale pages lying around?--Cattwister 09:40, 17 June 2014 (BST)

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